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ABCKO
Jun 20, 2001, 12:30 AM
Caught this in one of our local newspapers on Tuesday. I will translate the more important bits:

(From U.S.A. today)

A Beatle hoax that has lasted 30 years

In the mysterious world of bootlegs, fans of the Beatles have been searching for over 30 years for 4 un-released songs: "Colliding Circles" & "Pink litmus paper shirt" by George, "Left is right (and right is wrong)" by John as well as "Deck chair", a vaudeville kind of song (of the same type as "Honey pie") by Paul.

Fans have suggested that these songs are being kept in vaults until the next Anthology.

These songs have never existed exept, as a joke, in the mind of a teen-ager.

Martin Lewis, animator of annual Beatlefest conventions and consultant for the albums "Anthology" & "Live at the B.B.C.", has publicly admited the hoax at the premiere of his autobiographical show "Great exploitations" in New York on June 6th.

He had recognized his "crime" two years ago in Los Angeles but Beatle fans who have been trying to find these songs had chosen not to believe him..

"I was surprised and horrified to see that so many Beatle fans refused to believe me" said Lewis. People would tell me "You are lying, I know someone who has those songs. So, I state again: there are no such songs !"

The legend started in a discography of Beatle bootlegs compiled in 1971 for the British magazine "Disc". Worried that his list did not hold many surprises, Lewis added the titles of 4 songs that he wrote when he was 14 years old. "They were horrible songs. I was an ardent fan, trying to be a Beatle".

Knowing that Apple regularly denied the existence of un-released songs, Lewis believed that he had nothing to worry about. "I told myself, it's only a piece of paper. I knew that Apple would not say: These songs, particularly these four, do not exist".

These songs have been mentioned in articles, biographies and on web sites.

"All these peoples have participated, without knowing it, in a montruous farce" says Lewis. Certain people have even embelished them mentioning that John played clarinette on this one and so on... Once these four titles had appeared in a serious book, everybody assumed that these four songs really existed".

Lewis decided to admit all of this publicly after having confessed himself to George Martin. Martin, upon hearing this, started laughing and said that he would have liked to have had one penny for each question that he had been asked about these songs over the years.

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[This Message Has Been Edited By ABCKO On June 20, 2001 12:35 AM]

FPSHOT
Jun 20, 2001, 12:48 AM
I have the song Circles which is a very psycedelic song of George on what I believe is a melotron.

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ABCKO
Jun 20, 2001, 12:57 AM
I'm not sure what to believe, what is the actual hoax ? The four songs or the the fact that they never existed ?

This joker (and I'm being polite...) could be putting us on, the hoax itself could be a hoax, trying to drumm up publicity & attention for his show.

Like many of you, I have "Cirles", the 1967-1968 demo recording (George + keyboard). I used to have "Pink litmus paper shirt" (not sure if I still have it, VERY bad sound). I've never heard the other two songs that were mentioned.

So these songs certainly appear to exist...or do they (I'm begining to wonder) ? It had alawys puzzled me that these songs had not been inluded on the Antholy CD's (considering some of the useless stuff that WAS included on these).

FPSHOT, or anybody else, has George ever been quoted mentioning that he had worked on "Circles" in the 1960's ? If not, you never know, could'nt it be that the "Circles" demo was actually recorded just prior to recording the version that appears on "Gone Troppo". What about the other songs, any mentions from people who would have been DIRECTLY involved with any of these ?

Anyhow, I'm still pretty sure that these songs, especially the two by George, are indeed "real". Only, I'm not as sure as I had been before...

And if I ever get my hands on Martin Lewis...
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[This Message Has Been Edited By ABCKO On June 20, 2001 12:59 AM]

FPSHOT
Jun 20, 2001, 02:14 AM
There is a good site with the recording data
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mdcarey/dollhous.htm

and it mentiones May 1968 various known recordings including Circles

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Not knowing what each new day may bring to you
Or take each day as it goes on
Wake up to the love that flows on, around you.

mindgames
Jun 20, 2001, 09:35 AM
Indeed, FPSHOT that is a very good site with tons of recording info. I've used it many times. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/teeth1.gif

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Tim
Jul 17, 2001, 08:37 PM
Anything you hear of these four are outFAKES,not outTAKES...
There are a ton of Beatles outfakes out there,like "John's" Candle Burns,which has also been flogged as a Pink Floyd outtake...

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darkhorse
Jul 18, 2001, 11:00 AM
I'm absolutely sure that The Beatles (or George alone) worked on "Circles" circa 1968. Mainly because I've got a recording of it that someone sent me. http://www.beatlelinks.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/grin.gif

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Tim
Jul 18, 2001, 08:13 PM
As I tried to explain in the Boot forum,Colliding Circles is a Martin Lewis invention,Circles is a Geroge demo appearantly from The White Album.

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